I picked up this cymbal when I was helping to clean out an old building we used as an after-school club and concert venue. It's got a chunk missing out of the edge (that's why it was left by whichever band it originally belonged to), but that definitely has not hurt the sound quality or playability. As everyone else says, this cymbal is a great combo crash/ride. It has a decent ping, but not the type that will stand out tremendously because of the wash. If you want a real pronounced ping, I would not suggest this cymbal as a primary ride. Go and pick up a Medium or Ping Ride (either A, A Custom, Z Custom, K Custom, or K). But I would still say buy this cymbal and use it in some manner. The wash makes it a very good crash cymbal, so BUY IT!!!!

I actually have 3 of these I use for live shows. 2 Brilliant Sweet Rides as my 2 Crash cymbals and 1 Traditional Sweet Ride as my main Ride/Crash. This will be the best cymbal you ever buy. Paiste, Meinl and Sabian don't compare to this cymbal. Accompany this cymbal with some Zildjian K's and you will have the best sounding cymbals EVER made. Zildjian has done it again.

I bought this cymbal about a year ago, and I have found it to be well worth the money. It has an excellent washy sound to it when you really start to drive a groove. The bell is not as loud as you'd hope it to be, however. I'd reccomend this cymbal for Rock use only. It has none of the dry, light ping you want for Jazz. Excellent for Rock and Fusion, though.

Not worth buying, this cymbal is very dark, and not that good for crashing on, but still crashable. I'm going to buy this cymbal in the brilliant finish next, the only reason why I bought this one was because I got it off of ebay for a very good deal. I would recommend buying the brilliant finish sweet ride though.

I bought this ride cymbal about a month ago because a friend had it, and it sounded great in the small venue I play at. I picked out a pair of 14" Sabian AAX stage hihats at the same time to complement the ride, and they match PERFECTLY. Now, if you know cymbals, you'll know that every cymbal is unique. This combination will not work all the time, I just got lucky at the store. Anyway, the ride is washy and kind of dark. It sounds great when crashed on, and the bell is clear, but mellow sounding, like the rest of the cymbal. Not much png or definiton because its kind of thin, it wonk work well in heavy metal. Because its a larger ride, its very loud when you crash/ride on it, but all ride cymbals are like that, so no problem there. I love how it sounds with my AAX hats, 16, 17, and 18 Paiste dark energy crashes. A great all purpose crashable ride.